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reid, very smart, have shrewd men. i feel like this is going to be more of a pawn used in the conversation about the fiscal cliff. >> really? >> i don't think it's actually going to be -- >> you have already had mcconnell saying depending on what happens, it's going to influence how i feel about the fiscal cliff. >> put it all in there. >> why not? >> i will say i don't actually look forward to 24-hour speeches. >> no, i don't. it's interesting that the crux of this seems to have come down to eliminating something that is quiet. okay? we're not talking sdret secretive. filibusters are public acts. do we just want to sort of amplify this and give people more opportunity to speak and get camera time? i mean -- >> it does raise the mrekt stakes for people to do that because they look like jack asses. not that they don't already. >> as you were saying, it's a largely secretive process. independent of the actual filibuster, you can put up roadblocks, and no one knows. you are not accountable. it's really about shame and tra
reid, very smart, have shrewd men. i feel like this is going to be more of a pawn used in the conversation about the fiscal cliff. >> really? >> i don't think it's actually going to be -- >> you have already had mcconnell saying depending on what happens, it's going to influence how i feel about the fiscal cliff. >> put it all in there. >> why not? >> i will say i don't actually look forward to 24-hour speeches. >> no, i don't. it's interesting that the...
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in the six year with harry reid we've had 386 filibusters. the senate has become totally dysfunctional because of this power grab by the minority. >> and when it comes to protecting minority rights, people say, the one argument you often hear is you might think the filibuster is a good idea now. but let's say democrats had not won the election. republicans had come in with the same 55 vote senate majority you have now. mitt romney was president. health care could be repealed, particularly in the absence of the filibuster. so what do you say to them? >> what i say to that, ezra, is i'm not afraid of democracy. i said that to majority leader mcconnell on the floor this summer. he was basically saying that, you know, you democrats better be careful. if we take over, we can repeal obama care. my rejoinder to that is if that is what the people vote for at the ballot box, then elections ought to have consequences. now i won't vote for it. i might try to slow it down, amend it, change it. but at least the majority ought to have the right to propose
in the six year with harry reid we've had 386 filibusters. the senate has become totally dysfunctional because of this power grab by the minority. >> and when it comes to protecting minority rights, people say, the one argument you often hear is you might think the filibuster is a good idea now. but let's say democrats had not won the election. republicans had come in with the same 55 vote senate majority you have now. mitt romney was president. health care could be repealed, particularly...
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with a simple majority if that's what harry reid wants. then they will be the party of high taxes and they can own it. >> all right. without that kind of republican strategic retreat, the december 31st deadline is not likely to be met. in today's jobs report it was positive and it beat the street and stocks went up. how do we move 150,000 jobs per month up to 300,000 which would be a real recovery? first up breaking news out of the supreme court this afternoon, the nation's highest court agreed to take up the explosive issue of same-sex marriage, agreeing to hear challenges to the federal defense of marriage act and california's proposition 8. nbc's pete williams joins us now from washington with all the latest details. good evening, pete. >> reporter: good evening, larry. the vilma case is the easier one. federal law signed into law by president clinton in 1996. it says if a person is legally married in a state, the federal government can't recognize those marriages. that's where you talked about federal benefits heterosexual couples get
with a simple majority if that's what harry reid wants. then they will be the party of high taxes and they can own it. >> all right. without that kind of republican strategic retreat, the december 31st deadline is not likely to be met. in today's jobs report it was positive and it beat the street and stocks went up. how do we move 150,000 jobs per month up to 300,000 which would be a real recovery? first up breaking news out of the supreme court this afternoon, the nation's highest court...
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and as you pointed out, house speaker john boehner, harry reid also preparing conferences to potentially work through the holidays. that is a tactic to some extent, but it is still an indication that as of right now, there's really no deal in sight. >> right. and now today speaker boehner said the president's plan has absolutely no chance on this hill. take a listen to this. >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. and if you look at -- if you look at our budget, we have no new revenue in our budget. the president had $1.6 trillion worth of new revenue. >> so he says it's never going to happen. but the president says he's confident speaker boehner will ultimately cave. are these meetings, these phone calls, are these all -- >> a bit of political theater if you speak to folks who are involved in these negotiations. they will admit that it is important to run down the clock. they want their conferences to feel as though they put up a fight. they can't say they put up a good fight if you don't run the clock down. and also a deal
and as you pointed out, house speaker john boehner, harry reid also preparing conferences to potentially work through the holidays. that is a tactic to some extent, but it is still an indication that as of right now, there's really no deal in sight. >> right. and now today speaker boehner said the president's plan has absolutely no chance on this hill. take a listen to this. >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. and...
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harry reid feels differently. and the president feels differently. >> the president is right to say this is an extreme measure and was used irresponsibly last year. it hurt the economy last year. megyn: just to clarify and tell the viewers what you are talking about. the republicans in exchange for raising the debt limit said we'll do it but there have to be spending cuts to offset the amount of debt. >> what i don't like about the debt ceiling process is we have a process to create budget and there are congress and committees. things are supposed to go through both houses and get voatds on. i think this is going outside the democratic process. the republican numbers went down much more than barack obama's did last year. i think they have to be careful about what they are doing here. >> i think the reason simon doesn't like it is because it gives the republicans leverage to force the president to deal with the debt. the president has as much chance of succeeding as you have of getting john bolton to cry on your sh
harry reid feels differently. and the president feels differently. >> the president is right to say this is an extreme measure and was used irresponsibly last year. it hurt the economy last year. megyn: just to clarify and tell the viewers what you are talking about. the republicans in exchange for raising the debt limit said we'll do it but there have to be spending cuts to offset the amount of debt. >> what i don't like about the debt ceiling process is we have a process to create...
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and the fact that harry reid and other senators are voting on such foolishness and they will not pass a budget and congress voting on the word "lunatic" what the hell is happening to us i shudder to think. >> since when did a movie become so important that we put our budget and taxes on the back buncher so we can pass a motion to allow food in a theater? harry reid wants food in the chamber so they can eat when they fish fish. >> lincoln" wrote owe without food is great, it could teach them something about backbone. that is a very good point, i didn't think of that. >> but not as good as this e-mail of the week. one more time with the animation, please. yes, mail of the week >> relax, ladies there is enough of me to go around here. calm down. calm down. i will get serious e-mails on that, you know. >> anyway, i kid a lot about being a super hero. not really. but, some of you may think i may not but these guys are the heroes behind the nation's space program, sunday night at 9:00 p.m., you are going to get a never-before-seen front row seat to look at all of them. >> the crew of apollo
and the fact that harry reid and other senators are voting on such foolishness and they will not pass a budget and congress voting on the word "lunatic" what the hell is happening to us i shudder to think. >> since when did a movie become so important that we put our budget and taxes on the back buncher so we can pass a motion to allow food in a theater? harry reid wants food in the chamber so they can eat when they fish fish. >> lincoln" wrote owe without food is...
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i got more negative when harry reid said it is unlikely that a deal will be done by christmas. i'm thrilled to have senator john hovan, a republican from north dakota who has been an advocate here with us tonight. welcome back to "mad money." >> jim, good to be with you. >> i noticed that you are for a bipartisan situation and one of the things that tells me that you are for real is that you have not signed a pledge that would make it so that you cannot vote for a tax increase. it should be a big deal on the order of four trillion dollar over ten years. get growth in our economy and the kind of deal that inincludes tax reform and better spending control. >> when you were governor of your state you previded over what i think is the single greatest employment boom. is washington so different that you wish you were back home? >> you have been out to north dakota, but you are right. the fundamentals don't change. certainty we can put those things in place with a big deal. we need to get it done. >> one of the things i was noticing. this is something fellow senator conrad was talkin
i got more negative when harry reid said it is unlikely that a deal will be done by christmas. i'm thrilled to have senator john hovan, a republican from north dakota who has been an advocate here with us tonight. welcome back to "mad money." >> jim, good to be with you. >> i noticed that you are for a bipartisan situation and one of the things that tells me that you are for real is that you have not signed a pledge that would make it so that you cannot vote for a tax...
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this is what harry reid is that the last c couple of days doing. why can't we get people in the same room and try to get this thing resolved instead of just talking past each othr? >> that is an excellent idea, but first a believe we have to gethe president involved with the speaker of the house and see what the real parameters are and see if there is any real negotiating room there, wiggle room on each side. until that happens, you know, if you do it in the press and you do it in ohio, you do it in michigan, you do it in texas, somewhere else, that's not doing here. gerri: well, i want to get you to another topic as well today, which is the ederal house in administration, which is facing just an unprecedented finncial problem. and now sean donovan who runs the department of housing and urban development, hey, we are taking steps to try to lighten the load, but is it enough? and what is the right rescue? what is the right plan for the fha? >> actually, it is a timely question. we had the hud secretary before the banking committee yesterday. fha has
this is what harry reid is that the last c couple of days doing. why can't we get people in the same room and try to get this thing resolved instead of just talking past each othr? >> that is an excellent idea, but first a believe we have to gethe president involved with the speaker of the house and see what the real parameters are and see if there is any real negotiating room there, wiggle room on each side. until that happens, you know, if you do it in the press and you do it in ohio,...
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we had a meeting with harry reid and speaker john boehner. the executive board message was as youre dealing with tough decisions that have to be made, to make sure that we don't over the fiscal cliff, don't shift e burden downward. we understand that there is a shared sacrifice. we ask for flexibility when it comes to programs thatre funded by the federal government and federal monies. we needlex ability to be able to determine what is in the best interest of our state. how we can best serve the population. gerri: the truth is the states only have so much flex ability because you have to meet your budget. the federal govement doesn't. but i want to show who is in washington. it was scott walker, gary herbert, mark dayton, jack markell. all the leadership of the governors associatio what kind of response did you get? we are not passing anything onto you guys. >> the president was very cordial and respectful to the governors. and we believe that we have a stake in this process, and he felt like we could offer some ideas of ways that we could he
we had a meeting with harry reid and speaker john boehner. the executive board message was as youre dealing with tough decisions that have to be made, to make sure that we don't over the fiscal cliff, don't shift e burden downward. we understand that there is a shared sacrifice. we ask for flexibility when it comes to programs thatre funded by the federal government and federal monies. we needlex ability to be able to determine what is in the best interest of our state. how we can best serve...
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senate majority leader harry reid called his bluff initially, putting the bill up to vote, but after discuss it with democratic member, reid got the support he needed and had a change of heart. claire mccaskill was presiding over the senate when mcconnell objected to voting on the bill. >> is there an objection to the original request? >> i'll object. >> objection is heard. i got whiplash. >> very strange. >> dick durbin reacted to mcconnell's unbelievable move moments later. >> so this may be a moment in senate history when a senator made a proposal and when given an opportunity for a vote, on that proposal, filibustered his own proposal. i think we have now reached a new spot in the history of the senate we have never seen before. >> let's turn to vermont senator bernie sanders, independent. i'm laughing at it too, senator. this just goes to show they are winging it big-time. they don't have a plan other than to get in the way. they're just throwing it up there. what's your response to what unfolded on the floor and what we can look forward to in the future? >> i think dick durbin
senate majority leader harry reid called his bluff initially, putting the bill up to vote, but after discuss it with democratic member, reid got the support he needed and had a change of heart. claire mccaskill was presiding over the senate when mcconnell objected to voting on the bill. >> is there an objection to the original request? >> i'll object. >> objection is heard. i got whiplash. >> very strange. >> dick durbin reacted to mcconnell's unbelievable move...
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what will harry reid miss most about retired senator ben nelson? >> he had a lot of real hair. it's often that people call his office -- they believe he has a toupe. it's his hair. he will pull it for every time just to show you that it's real. i mean, he has hair like a 15-year-old, mr. president, and so i have to acknowledge i am a little envious of his hair. ♪ i want it long, straight, curly, fuzzy ♪ >> you wonder why we don't have a budget deal yet. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington, and first it was ohio. then, indiana i understand and wisconsin. now the labor mooumt is fighting for its rights in lansing, michigan. out in the cold voicing outrage on the steps of the statehouse over right to work legislation that governor rick snyder says he will be signing when it reaches his desk likely tomorrow. joining me now nbc's ron mott live in lansing. ron, what is the latest, and how did this come to a head so quickly in michigan? >> reporter: it came together very quickly, andrea. good day to you. it's a cold day out here, but these folks are very fired up. the
what will harry reid miss most about retired senator ben nelson? >> he had a lot of real hair. it's often that people call his office -- they believe he has a toupe. it's his hair. he will pull it for every time just to show you that it's real. i mean, he has hair like a 15-year-old, mr. president, and so i have to acknowledge i am a little envious of his hair. ♪ i want it long, straight, curly, fuzzy ♪ >> you wonder why we don't have a budget deal yet. good day. i'm andrea...
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he has to deal with democrats and harry reid's comments today give you a sense of where they are coming from. >> they have to come up with specific revenue. and they refuse to do that. it is a simple question of arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. so as you know in washington, a rebellion in the ranks like this could be a problem. but in the spohort-term, if it remains constrained. it could be a good negotiating term. he could say i have offered everything that i have and still get this thing passed. you know, i never hear the discussion about spending. i'm not saying you. it is about taxes and revenues. they are supposed to have a $1.2 trillion spending cut. they are nowhere near rephrase g i replacing that. does anybody in washington think about spending and help the taxpayer? spending is going to get done and it is going to include spending. the question when those details come out is will the president face the problem on the left of trying to herd cats here. rather than focused on the priority. they are going to have to be part of this deal. so
he has to deal with democrats and harry reid's comments today give you a sense of where they are coming from. >> they have to come up with specific revenue. and they refuse to do that. it is a simple question of arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. so as you know in washington, a rebellion in the ranks like this could be a problem. but in the spohort-term, if it remains constrained. it could be a good negotiating term. he could say i have offered...
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>> when w senate democratic leader harry reid charging the real problem is infighting among speaker john boehner leadership team over whether the republicans will support tax rate increases. >> the speaker has to make an important decision. whether he is going to save his speakership, or the country. >> senate republican mitch mcconnell fired back that president obama can't get fellow democrats to back real spending cuts. >> we with r running out of time. time to to see if the president is willing to cut any spending at all. >> ia carney held up the president's budget plan again. >> it's not a mystery. we have seen this before. this is the document that contains the specific spending cuths. >> except in that budget, the president includes $100 billion in medicaid cuts. that would have come from shifting more costs to states. yet; just yesterday the department of health and human services revealed it no longer supports those cuts. because the supreme court landmark healthcare decision allows states to opt out of the new laws medicate expansion. when carney was pressed today on how to whit
>> when w senate democratic leader harry reid charging the real problem is infighting among speaker john boehner leadership team over whether the republicans will support tax rate increases. >> the speaker has to make an important decision. whether he is going to save his speakership, or the country. >> senate republican mitch mcconnell fired back that president obama can't get fellow democrats to back real spending cuts. >> we with r running out of time. time to to see...
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and harry reid says it will be difficult to get legislation passed before then. g.o.p. made a counter offer to the president. so what is in it? the federal government sold shares of aig. they report $5 billion profit. there is a catch. we'll tell you what it is. ♪ ♪ >> greg: by the year 2030, america will no long ber the only super power. according to global trends 2030, the u.s. will be first among equals as brazil, india and china continue to rise. communist china works. i wonder if he would be willing to report state run economy. i doubt the white house cares. being number two means never being number one. if you believe exceptionalism is quaint you don't like being number one to begin with. we no longer refer to achieveer as successful. we call them rich to make them target for withdrawal. if you are good at what you do you become obama's atm. pin code for pork. the report says we'll be cyborg with neuroenhangment for superhuman abilities. will robots be forced to unio unionize? >> dana: where were you when you wrote that? were you in a bar in colorado or washin
and harry reid says it will be difficult to get legislation passed before then. g.o.p. made a counter offer to the president. so what is in it? the federal government sold shares of aig. they report $5 billion profit. there is a catch. we'll tell you what it is. ♪ ♪ >> greg: by the year 2030, america will no long ber the only super power. according to global trends 2030, the u.s. will be first among equals as brazil, india and china continue to rise. communist china works. i wonder if...
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majority leader, harry reid. >> they can't decide what they're going to do. we have heard about the infighting going on with the house leadership, boehner is having trouble finding help from his leadership as to what they're to do. >> according to senator reid, the battle is between boehner and congressman kevin mccarthy, eric cantor, and one paul ryan. ho, ho, ho. let's get right to our panel. with me here in washington is msnbc political analyst david corn, and in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. david, can i start with you? the president began with, o come all ye faithful, and now we have speaker boehner singing in the bleak winter. how far does the president have to go to give boehner something that helps boehner go to his caucus and say let's just do our deal. >> you want someone to be singing "i'll be home for christmas." >> there you go. >> first, it's nice to see you in d.c. >> it's a great pleasure. >> we have this little bubble of optimism in the conventional media the past few days. although they're talking, they're no
majority leader, harry reid. >> they can't decide what they're going to do. we have heard about the infighting going on with the house leadership, boehner is having trouble finding help from his leadership as to what they're to do. >> according to senator reid, the battle is between boehner and congressman kevin mccarthy, eric cantor, and one paul ryan. ho, ho, ho. let's get right to our panel. with me here in washington is msnbc political analyst david corn, and in new york msnbc...
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so why is harry reid worried who is the quarterback on the other team? why is he even using this metaphor? is. >> why has he been running? >> this is why it's a good development. >> yeah. >> by the way, another interesting development with the leadership yesterday was mitch mcconnell tried to make a move to separate out the debt negotiation, the debt ceiling, he thought he had a power play to have them separate out the vote and embarrass democrats. they pulled together 51 votes and then he had to back off. >> he had to filibuster -- >> filibuster his own bill. >> isn't it a fascinating change, mark mckinnon. back when we were younger like ten years ago. it used to be the senate that was the chamber where members were more respectful of each other. now watching harry reid run the senate and mitch mcconnell blast back at him, they are acting really -- and you see this all across the senate, more like we used to behave in the house. >> yeah, that emperor isn't wearing much clothes. >> do you see a point in time two politicians seem more like the parade is p
so why is harry reid worried who is the quarterback on the other team? why is he even using this metaphor? is. >> why has he been running? >> this is why it's a good development. >> yeah. >> by the way, another interesting development with the leadership yesterday was mitch mcconnell tried to make a move to separate out the debt negotiation, the debt ceiling, he thought he had a power play to have them separate out the vote and embarrass democrats. they pulled together...
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both mcconnell and harry reid acknowledge if a deal is going to get done, they have to put together the pieces of the framework very soon. >> this is the week we are going to find out whether the president is serious about cutting any spending at all. we are running out of time. >> until we hear from the republicans, there is nothing to draft. we can get things done quickly. i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas, but it could be done. >> we shall see. sunday is basically the deadline, if you will, unofficially if they want to get something done before christmas. moving on to the labor fight in michigan, over 12,000 union workers and supporters rallied yesterday. look at the pictures. protesting the so-called right to work law that will make it illegal to require an employee to pay union dues as a condition of their employment. it was not enough to stop the legislation that rick snyder signed into law. despite the long history, the state is controlled by a republican-dominated house and senate. >> there 58 aye votes and 52 nay votes. >> therefore th
both mcconnell and harry reid acknowledge if a deal is going to get done, they have to put together the pieces of the framework very soon. >> this is the week we are going to find out whether the president is serious about cutting any spending at all. we are running out of time. >> until we hear from the republicans, there is nothing to draft. we can get things done quickly. i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas, but it could be done. >>...
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senator harry reid used an interesting analogy on the floor to describe the current state of the republican party. listen to this first. >> he's got a problem. he has three quarter backs, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, a guy by the name of mcilroy. he can't describe who is going to be the quarterback. that's the same problem that the republicans are having. romney is there but he's in the background. who is the quarterback, mr. president. >> hogan, what do you think? who's the quarterback? >> what a great question. i think, look, inherently the democrats have the advantage with the bully pulpit of the presidency. we don't have that out there right now. there are people who can talk about republican governance and why it's better and why we should lean towards that but until you have that, it's tough to rise to the level of the gravitas of those in the white house. this whole notion that we're some discome bob lated party, we took it on the election and there will be scrambling around after a big loss like that. but we've got some voices out there and we'll see as we get closer and closer to i
senator harry reid used an interesting analogy on the floor to describe the current state of the republican party. listen to this first. >> he's got a problem. he has three quarter backs, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, a guy by the name of mcilroy. he can't describe who is going to be the quarterback. that's the same problem that the republicans are having. romney is there but he's in the background. who is the quarterback, mr. president. >> hogan, what do you think? who's the...
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it's a sad day, said harry reid, when we cannot pass a treaty that simply brings the world up to the american standard for protecting people with disabilities because the republican party is enthralled to extremists and idealogs. that brings us back to mark twain who said
it's a sad day, said harry reid, when we cannot pass a treaty that simply brings the world up to the american standard for protecting people with disabilities because the republican party is enthralled to extremists and idealogs. that brings us back to mark twain who said
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that is, instead of having nancy pelosi, harry reid, and the president and boehner and mitch mcconnell, you have two men in one room and that to me says an awful lot. the fact they released a statement that's plu conic. the lines of communication are open. this indicates to me a degree of seriousness we haven't seen to date and very important. now,ly also point out to you on the issue of balance and what former senator simpson said, i'm paying attention to the statements of business leaders right now. in particular, look at randall stevenson, ceo of at&t who said i think we need to avoid the fiscal cliff and a balanced approach and someone who's trended republican personally, that says a lot. it gives cover to the republicans in congress that this is okay to do in the name of american business. >> david, i want to quickly pivot back to entitlement reform. if the republicans have cover with the business world, let's play what erskine bowles said about entitlements and the president. >> i don't see why the president would want to negotiate against himself on this. you know, if the republ
that is, instead of having nancy pelosi, harry reid, and the president and boehner and mitch mcconnell, you have two men in one room and that to me says an awful lot. the fact they released a statement that's plu conic. the lines of communication are open. this indicates to me a degree of seriousness we haven't seen to date and very important. now,ly also point out to you on the issue of balance and what former senator simpson said, i'm paying attention to the statements of business leaders...
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senate majority harry reid said something similar. you know i think that they're actually getting closer despite the rhetoric because we're not seeing a lot of leaks on either side. either from the white house or boehner. they've had the phone calls. we don't know what really went on during them. before, we got some semblance of what went on. i think there is incentive on both sides to get a deal. now whether it is done before christmas or new year's, i'm not sure. boehner needs a if fatigue factor. he knows it will be the toughest moment of his speakership. he has to get 100 votes on his side. he has to get something from president obama whether it's more aggressive medicare means testing, something he can go back with a shiny object to his tea party guys and say at least we got this. and of course, we have to increase taxes because well, we lost the election. that's going to be very hard sell. >> bill: so this -- does this -- this have to be entitlement so-called entitlement reform? >> i think it's gotta be some type of change in en
senate majority harry reid said something similar. you know i think that they're actually getting closer despite the rhetoric because we're not seeing a lot of leaks on either side. either from the white house or boehner. they've had the phone calls. we don't know what really went on during them. before, we got some semblance of what went on. i think there is incentive on both sides to get a deal. now whether it is done before christmas or new year's, i'm not sure. boehner needs a if fatigue...
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stocks, though, did come off their highs, after those harry reid comments. that sent everybody into a little bit of a tail spin. i believe we do have some comments on tape here from some of the lawmakers we heard today. >> you give the president every single job harming tax increase that he's requested, you run the government for maybe nine or ten days. >> i think there's a real danger that we're going to end up with some damaging tax increases and nothing to show for it. >> if we took the president's revenue, we took the republic republicans' spending cuts and we put them together, we'd have a package of more than $4 trillion. >> what i hope boehner does not do is give away the debt ceiling with any kind of deal unless it's the real deal. >> when the government spends money and a lot of these other so-called infrastructure investments, it ends up wasting the money, taking it from the private sector. >> i think we need to do the entitlement issue. >> i'm optimistic we're going to be able to avoid the fiscal cliff, we're not going to go over that. we're not g
stocks, though, did come off their highs, after those harry reid comments. that sent everybody into a little bit of a tail spin. i believe we do have some comments on tape here from some of the lawmakers we heard today. >> you give the president every single job harming tax increase that he's requested, you run the government for maybe nine or ten days. >> i think there's a real danger that we're going to end up with some damaging tax increases and nothing to show for it. >>...
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senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case, in the form of a swipe. >> i sympathize with john boehner. the key party has a firm grip on the republican party, and that's obvious, what's happened this morning here in washington. >> reporter: that disconnect in the gop was in the spotlight today. jim demint spoke out against boehner's proposal to the president. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves, and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> very critical of john boehner. and demint's press release aimed squarely at john boehner. $800 billion tax hike will destroy jobs, allow washington to spend more. as you all know, john boehner put an $800 billion tax hike as a center of his proposal. so john boehner got rejected from the white house, which wants another $800 billion on top of that in tax hikes and then rejected by the right wing of his own party which wants absolutely no tax hikes at all. so unlike harry reid, i actually
senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case, in the form of a swipe. >> i sympathize with john boehner. the key party has a firm grip on the republican party, and that's obvious, what's happened this morning here in washington. >> reporter: that disconnect in the gop was in the spotlight today. jim demint spoke out against boehner's proposal to the president. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with...
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perhaps that's why senate majority leader harry reid felt confident enough to declare that until republicans move on tax rates, more spending cuts are off the table. >> the president made clear, i have tried to make very clear, until there's some movement in tax rates, we're -- i'm not talking about any other proposals, not about where there will be a cut here or a cut there. >> no. as a matter of fact, the only cuts the senate is talking about today are in terms of staff on the republican side. with the surprise news today that senator jim demint after blasting speaker boehner's debt reduction plan will step down from the senate to head a conservative think tank. quote, i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas. yes, the strong leadership of lobbyists. asked by rush limbaugh if boehner was forcing him out, demint replied, it might work a little bit the other way. let's get to our panel. with us from washington is msnbc political analyst david corn, msnbc contributor dr. jared bernstein, senior fellow
perhaps that's why senate majority leader harry reid felt confident enough to declare that until republicans move on tax rates, more spending cuts are off the table. >> the president made clear, i have tried to make very clear, until there's some movement in tax rates, we're -- i'm not talking about any other proposals, not about where there will be a cut here or a cut there. >> no. as a matter of fact, the only cuts the senate is talking about today are in terms of staff on the...
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>>> in a letter to senate majority leader harry reid, 18 democratic senators are requesting a sweetheart deal to delay a 2.3% medical device tax that is part of obama care. due to start january 1st. but you know what, may i with all respect, these guys are hypocrites. they're not supply siders. yes, the tax is a job killer, as they say, but it's only hitting their states. the senators claim the medical device tax kills jobs but why aren't they against all the other job killing obama care taxes or for that matter the fiscal cliff tax hikes that are coming. let's faulk about this. we have igor volsky and guy benson. guy benson, i am glad they have won't up to this lousy medical device tax but did someone say minnesota where, wait, medtronic and st. jude medical are the biggest companies? they're the ones that make the equipment? and senator klobuchar and senator al franken are all of a sudden making a beef because it's in their state? where they been, guy benson, and when did they discover that taxes are job kimmers? >> i thought that wasn't the case at all. you're right. they didn't just
>>> in a letter to senate majority leader harry reid, 18 democratic senators are requesting a sweetheart deal to delay a 2.3% medical device tax that is part of obama care. due to start january 1st. but you know what, may i with all respect, these guys are hypocrites. they're not supply siders. yes, the tax is a job killer, as they say, but it's only hitting their states. the senators claim the medical device tax kills jobs but why aren't they against all the other job killing obama...
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reid would ever bring it up. what's interesting is if they say, okay. let's get rid of that medical device tax. the money will have to come from interelse. >> that medical device tax is designed to bring in $29 billion over ten years. >> steve: where is that going to come from then? >> what are you going to do? you need another source of income. >> steve: call china! >> can we borrow more? you're already going to raise the medicare tax to help pay for obamacare. you're already raising the tax on some drugs to pay for it. what are you going to do now? if you don't get the medical device tax through, and you don't get the $29 billion, what are you going to do? you're right, steve. call china, let's borrow more. >> steve: so many people are fixated on the fiscal cliff and the president wants to jack up taxes on people who are successful. up to maybe about 40%. that's one of the theories out there. he'd love 40%. but a lot of people forget about the medical device tax, plus all the obamacare taxes already baked into
reid would ever bring it up. what's interesting is if they say, okay. let's get rid of that medical device tax. the money will have to come from interelse. >> that medical device tax is designed to bring in $29 billion over ten years. >> steve: where is that going to come from then? >> what are you going to do? you need another source of income. >> steve: call china! >> can we borrow more? you're already going to raise the medicare tax to help pay for obamacare....
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now, harry reid using his time to take a special waiver to allow unbuttered popcorn in the auditorium. that's what passes for work these days. the president's holding another campaign style event as the middle class families, and with more, michael burgess of texas. congressman, great to have you object show again. >> great to be with you, thank you. gerri: everything's hanging in the banse, economy, middle class income, taxes, you name it, and you and your fellow house members are not going to work. >> well, wait, this is a 24-hour day job, seven days a week. i'm in new york tomorrow looking at the hospitals affected in hurricane sandy, and i feel like i need to do the ground work to investigate that for myself. gerri: you're doing work, but not all the people you work with in washington are. some are just taking time off before the holidays when this big issue is on the plate. nancy pelosi had to say about this. >> we should be here and came as a surprise, and i'm really surprised that the republicans would leave. we maim in tuesday, and we left wednesday at twelve o'clock noon. wit
now, harry reid using his time to take a special waiver to allow unbuttered popcorn in the auditorium. that's what passes for work these days. the president's holding another campaign style event as the middle class families, and with more, michael burgess of texas. congressman, great to have you object show again. >> great to be with you, thank you. gerri: everything's hanging in the banse, economy, middle class income, taxes, you name it, and you and your fellow house members are not...
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here's what harry reid had to say about republicans today. >> it's not one of my favorite teams but it's really, really fun to watch and that's the new york jets. coach ryan. he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks. sanchez, he's got tim tebow. he's a guy named mcelroy. he can't decide who their quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem of the republicans. >> wow. if you don't live in new york or follow football, the new york jets are a nfl team that is currently plagued by horrible things. embarrassing losses, infights and culminated the butt fumble on thanksgiving of sanchez. it -- yeah. it shows how grim it is for the new york jets since it's synonymous with infighting. the hometown paper slammed them. that was when they won. but this also shows how far the gop has fallen. since mitt romney's big loss last month the gop is in trouble. like the jets. infighting and losses is a problem. while the republicans haven't quite experienced their own
here's what harry reid had to say about republicans today. >> it's not one of my favorite teams but it's really, really fun to watch and that's the new york jets. coach ryan. he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks. sanchez, he's got tim tebow. he's a guy named mcelroy. he can't decide who their quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem of the republicans. >> wow. if you don't live in new york or follow football, the new york jets are a nfl team that is currently...
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. >>> finally, senate majority leader harry reid paid tribute to ben nelson of nebraska yesterday and fessed up that the outgoing nebraska democrat has something he wants. the hint is in the top half of the picture. you're looking at it. let's take a listen to reid. >> if the truth were known, many, many senators would be very envious, as i am, and i would even think the presiding officer, about that hair of ben nelson's. i mean, that is a mop of real hair. it's often that people call his office, e-mail his office. they believe he has a toupee. it's his hair. he has hair like a 15-year-old, mr. president, and so i have to acknowledge i am a little envious of his hair. >> hair envy aside, nelson's real mark might be casting what many people called the deciding vote in favor of obama care. that was quite a moment. >>> up next, the new movie "zero dark thirty" suggests we wouldn't have gotten bin laden without torturing terror suspects. not everyone agrees, and that's ahead. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#
. >>> finally, senate majority leader harry reid paid tribute to ben nelson of nebraska yesterday and fessed up that the outgoing nebraska democrat has something he wants. the hint is in the top half of the picture. you're looking at it. let's take a listen to reid. >> if the truth were known, many, many senators would be very envious, as i am, and i would even think the presiding officer, about that hair of ben nelson's. i mean, that is a mop of real hair. it's often that people...
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harry reid will bring it up for a vote again in the next congress. ...and spend time on the slopes. take alka-seltzer plus cold & cough... [ buzz! ] ...and spend time on the chair. for non-drowsy 6-symptom cold & flu relief. take dayquil. use nyquil d... [ ding! ] ...and get longer nighttime cough relief. use alka-seltzer plus night cold & flu... [ coughs ] [ buzz! ] [ screams ] ...and you could find yourself... honey? ...on the couch. nyquil d. 50% longer cough and stuffy nose relief. but when i was in an accident... honey? ...on the couch. i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> house speaker john boehner just emerged from a caucus meeting. let's listen in. >> -- the president's been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. our targets and framework are things that we can all agree on, and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussion
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>> so harry reid gives him a bone and says hold on. the idea was putting the democrats on record they want to give this bump. these people are out-of-control. >>gregg: i watched the president's interview this week, i believe it was on tuesday, he said he is happy to look at ways to strengthen social security. he would be open to the idea of doing something about medicaid and medicare. this is the biggest driver, right? >> the president is indicating trial balloon, that he is willing to take on entitlements in some way. the real question to the republicans, then, and it could be signaled by speaker boehner going to the white house, will they cave operates for the wealthy and go up to 37 percent or 38 percent and allow the president to put entitlements on the board. >> anything less than 39 speaker boehner will call a victory. the republicans lost the election so they have to give in on taxes. >>gregg: 250,000 is not rich. up it to half a million. >> we still have coming in february or man unless they do a big deal, we have a new debt ce
>> so harry reid gives him a bone and says hold on. the idea was putting the democrats on record they want to give this bump. these people are out-of-control. >>gregg: i watched the president's interview this week, i believe it was on tuesday, he said he is happy to look at ways to strengthen social security. he would be open to the idea of doing something about medicaid and medicare. this is the biggest driver, right? >> the president is indicating trial balloon, that he is...
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then if the fiscal cliff is hit, then the persons that will be hit are president obama and harry reid. >> every single house republican needs to be involved in communication. if they passed a bill that extended the tax cuts for everybody and every single one of them went on local tv and local radio and said we have now passed a middle class tax extension, all the president has to do is sign it, you would have a totally different debate going on the next day. >> sean: this is what i feel is missing. the discussion, and as best i could, i'm trying to explain it, about conservative prime princi, about what's al at stake, and ai hear is or i sense a fear they don't want to go over the cliff and i sense a fear on the pr front and just even the president with the whole language of the debate seems like a defeat to me. >> i don't understand why they haven't said from day one this is the path to a balanced budget that has to involve entitlement reform and spending reform. i went to analysis on monday and interviewed mitch daniels who has been a terrific governor. mitch needed $3 billion for c
then if the fiscal cliff is hit, then the persons that will be hit are president obama and harry reid. >> every single house republican needs to be involved in communication. if they passed a bill that extended the tax cuts for everybody and every single one of them went on local tv and local radio and said we have now passed a middle class tax extension, all the president has to do is sign it, you would have a totally different debate going on the next day. >> sean: this is what i...
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and i expect that out of the president of the united states and harry reid, but i expect republicans to uphold their pledge and 238 said don't raise taxes. i figure that's where they are headed. >> 16 republican congressmen can hold up the speaker ship of congressman boehner. is there a growing move men in the republican congress? >> the speaker may have miscalculated here thinking it is just going to be a few of us concerned about t but it's clear he made a threat to the rest of the conference. and people aren't taking that very well. i've heard from people high up in the ranks who are saying, look, this is not the right way to run a conference. i think this is going to backfire on speaker boehner. and people who run a conference like this have to be very careful. >> all right. gentlemen, both of you thank you. we will continue to watch the story and we will reach out to the leadership and see if they will come on and answer questions about this. coming up, time for media mash and it must be magic because we've imagined to find more absurd examples of media bias every week. that's n
and i expect that out of the president of the united states and harry reid, but i expect republicans to uphold their pledge and 238 said don't raise taxes. i figure that's where they are headed. >> 16 republican congressmen can hold up the speaker ship of congressman boehner. is there a growing move men in the republican congress? >> the speaker may have miscalculated here thinking it is just going to be a few of us concerned about t but it's clear he made a threat to the rest of...
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here's what harry reid had to say about republicans today. >> not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the new york jets. coach ryan. he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks. sanchez, he's got tim tebow, and he's got a guy by the name of mcilroy. he can't decide who the quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem republicans are having. >> wow. for those of you who don't live in new york or follow football, the new york jets are an nfl team currently plagued by horrible things. infighting and embarrassing losses that culminating with mark sanchez's infamous butt fumble on thanksgiving. it shows how grim it is for the new york jets since their name is synonymous with failure and infighting. even when they won by a mechely point, their hometown paper slammed them. that was when they won. this also shows how far the gop has fallen. since mitt romney's big loss last month. like the jets there's finger points and nastiness. while the republicans haven't experienced their own butt fumble yet, they might not be far off. the jets last game
here's what harry reid had to say about republicans today. >> not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the new york jets. coach ryan. he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks. sanchez, he's got tim tebow, and he's got a guy by the name of mcilroy. he can't decide who the quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem republicans are having. >> wow. for those of you who don't live in new york or follow football, the new york jets are an...
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the president speaks to senate democratic leader harry reid, we have learned. meeting yesterday at the white house with a speaker banner an in a speech in detroia couple of hours go the president extended little olive branch to the republicans. >> i have said i would work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation and reducing our deficits. and some compromise between democrats and republicans, i understand people have a lot of different views, i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> i spoke to an aide to one top republican leader who was a little bit upset by the comment the president would be willing to compromise a little bit. the white house did not disclose any details of the meeting with the president and the speaker yesterday only confirmed that communications remain open. tim john boehner remaining discussions are in place. david: the president said some things about a year ago that sounded like a perfect compromise. let me get your reaction. this was about a year ago. >> what they said was give us 1.2 trillion in additional revenue
the president speaks to senate democratic leader harry reid, we have learned. meeting yesterday at the white house with a speaker banner an in a speech in detroia couple of hours go the president extended little olive branch to the republicans. >> i have said i would work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation and reducing our deficits. and some compromise between democrats and republicans, i understand people have a lot of different views, i'm willing to compromise...